Y'know what's so weird to me? Like, even ignoring the fact the Sunfire body is too short, regarding the problem with the proportions of the body and Firelord looking kinda scrawny on it...... even if they wanted to keep it on this body, they could've easily improved things by giving him the Shang-Chi version of the body with actually substantial shoulders?? Like, I just don't get why they released the Shang-Chi figure in early 2020 with improved larger shoulders that make the mold more proportional, and yet as far as I'm aware despite the many reuses of that body in the two years since, they've never reused the better shoulders. Except maybe for the new Renew Your Vows Spidey?
On 8/26/2022 at 6:31 PM, monron999 said:I bought this thing out of pure FOMO and the understanding they may never do another one, but nothing like a ton of pictures to illustrate just how lazy and out of scale this thing is. Especially that picture where the phenomenal Vulcan figure at 6' tall looking over the top of the supposedly 6'4" Firelord's head. Also gotta say that shot of the 5'10" Spider-Man is edging out Firelord, almost even with the fire effects coming out of the top of his head. Just excellent attention to detail. I guess we can't be too hard on Hasbro. I mean it's not like you can just pull up these character's physical statistics on the interweb or anything. God I swear I hate Hasbro, yet I have such a fond love for classic Marvel. It's such a cruel conundrum. I feel like we're all just stuck in this one way relationship with the most toxic of partners. "Another price hike? Well, I don't like it but sure, if that's what you need we're good, we'll stay, it's just the way it is. How 'bout some extra love and attention to character accuracy? No? Well, guess we'll just have to be okay with it?". Nice fire stick weapon, though.
Amen. We're both designers and seeing such a lack of attention and care for key details, especially from pros, is beyond frustrating. To me, details is how you show the love. It's how you show you really really give a damn. I don't want to hear about tooling budget excuses and so forth, because if you really truly care about something, you find ways to make it work with what you have. Firelord is a guy who flies through space at faster than light speeds...how then does he have side-swept hair???(If there's a positive there, I can now at least forgive them for Mar-Vell's blow dried hair look). How does a Herald of Galactus, who's fought and terrorized many of Marvel's heavyweights end up on such a scrawny body???
Maybe it's one of those interesting motivating factors in life, but for me personally, every character save two, that I've been waiting on for nearly 40 years has been futzed by decisions that show me that they don't care enough. When was Malekith over roided out? Where is the sense and logic in making Guardian, Canada's Captain America....look like a constipated old man??? Why is virtually every super lady built like a skinny teenaged girl??? Why, in this day and age of Action Figure photography, give any character who isn't the Hulk a screaming face as their only portrait??
For me, any designer who ignores or misses the obvious (particularly when it's been laid down in decades worth of comics) is a designer who doesn't care enough. You don't care enough that there are some fans who've waited nearly a lifetime for these things, or that for many fans across the globe, these things are quickly approaching 50 dollars a pop! And if they don't care enough for these details, then why should I care? And more importantly: why should I spend my money on such things?
THis hits the nostalgia hard for me as Firelord was one of the 90's F4 figures I got. Definitely picking him up
The biggest pro for me for this figure is the classic design. Just awesome classic Marvel
the biggest con is the price. For what we get this is bare bones
im sure FireLord will be in my collection but if I can hold off hopefully it will be with a coupon or on discount
He is a must-get character for me, yes he is a bit under-sized on that Sunfire buck but otherwise i think they pretty much nailed it, altho from what i've read he doesn't hold the staff as well as he could.
I know there are a lot of folks rushing to get this guy but i think like the rest of the retro FF figures he won't be too hard to get, i plan on waiting til he's marked down to $20, which i feel is a more reasonably price for a no-frills figure. the retro packaging doesn't do much for me (in this case at least).
I bought this thing out of pure FOMO and the understanding they may never do another one, but nothing like a ton of pictures to illustrate just how lazy and out of scale this thing is. Especially that picture where the phenomenal Vulcan figure at 6' tall looking over the top of the supposedly 6'4" Firelord's head. Also gotta say that shot of the 5'10" Spider-Man is edging out Firelord, almost even with the fire effects coming out of the top of his head. Just excellent attention to detail. I guess we can't be too hard on Hasbro. I mean it's not like you can just pull up these character's physical statistics on the interweb or anything. God I swear I hate Hasbro, yet I have such a fond love for classic Marvel. It's such a cruel conundrum. I feel like we're all just stuck in this one way relationship with the most toxic of partners. "Another price hike? Well, I don't like it but sure, if that's what you need we're good, we'll stay, it's just the way it is. How 'bout some extra love and attention to character accuracy? No? Well, guess we'll just have to be okay with it?". Nice fire stick weapon, though.
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