On 10/19/2022 at 1:10 PM, Atlantis said:I'd like them to do more of the Serpent Squad/Society and if they never did him, believe it or not, it wouldn't bother me too much. I'm not that big a fan of Rock Python as a character. That probably sounds weird, because others can point out how often I mention him. But bear with me....there's a method to the madness...
I refer to him, BUT its a back handed compliment. I like to use him as one of the best examples of comic-to-figure accuracy. Also, he's kind of obscure, really not that popular, and has a one-off feature that doesn't lend itself to re-use. Yet by every detail they got him right! So why not do that for all their figures? How do they get him correct, but mess up Silver Centurion, or Dormammu? LOL
One of my biggest wants for ML is for them to give us the rest of the Serpent Society, I'm a big fan of that crew, if they didn't get around to at least 6 more characters I'd be mad.
Yes and I agree, simple thing about it all is, Why can't everyone get the accurate treatment they deserve? I think in reality it's a bit of a smoothie, 1 part tooling budget 1 part ignorance to the source material.
maybe the conspiracy is that eventually they will just re-release every single figure they have in the past 100% accurate, having to make us by the entire line again at a whole new price.
On 10/19/2022 at 8:51 AM, Lord_Scareglow said:Oh hey by all means when I said "Rock Python of the wave" I only ment it was a part re-use easy fill in figure, Rock Python was just an example, but could have easily be swapped out with Spymaster or Blizzard, I wasn't downing on Rock Python I think I've always been loud in stating I love Rock Python and agree it was perfect to the source material (minus him not getting his egg bomb accessories), I was just using him as a point, that he was cost cutter, save budget figure for Hasbro, just like this Mr. Knight figure is, not all budget build figures are by all means bad, it's just what they are, they have to have so many in a year, to balance what they pay on the new tooling yada yada you know...
and Stomper was an excellent looking figure, he's a case in point of Hasbro doing a great job making something so nice, but sadly it being not a high demand item to warrant such a great sculpting and tooling treatment.
I'd like them to do more of the Serpent Squad/Society and if they never did him, believe it or not, it wouldn't bother me too much. I'm not that big a fan of Rock Python as a character. That probably sounds weird, because others can point out how often I mention him. But bear with me....there's a method to the madness...
I refer to him, BUT its a back handed compliment. I like to use him as one of the best examples of comic-to-figure accuracy. Also, he's kind of obscure, really not that popular, and has a one-off feature that doesn't lend itself to re-use. Yet by every detail they got him right! So why not do that for all their figures? How do they get him correct, but mess up Silver Centurion, or Dormammu? LOL
On 10/19/2022 at 4:47 AM, Atlantis said:Fair point, and not to seem like I'm contradicting myself from earlier, but I will say whatever complaints people may have regarding either Rock Python or Hydra Stomper, both of these figures were excellently done and detailed almost exactly from their source material.
Rock Python isn't a particularly dynamic figure (or character) but they did get his distinctive helmet and belt correct, outfit colors, etc.
Stomper is all the way on the other side of the spectrum, in regards to the more intricate detailing required for its armor, however it also looks accurate to the tv episode. Which just underlines my frustration with this company- clearly they can do these figures accurately, but they just too often choose not to.
Oh hey by all means when I said "Rock Python of the wave" I only ment it was a part re-use easy fill in figure, Rock Python was just an example, but could have easily be swapped out with Spymaster or Blizzard, I wasn't downing on Rock Python I think I've always been loud in stating I love Rock Python and agree it was perfect to the source material (minus him not getting his egg bomb accessories), I was just using him as a point, that he was cost cutter, save budget figure for Hasbro, just like this Mr. Knight figure is, not all budget build figures are by all means bad, it's just what they are, they have to have so many in a year, to balance what they pay on the new tooling yada yada you know...
and Stomper was an excellent looking figure, he's a case in point of Hasbro doing a great job making something so nice, but sadly it being not a high demand item to warrant such a great sculpting and tooling treatment.
On 10/18/2022 at 9:25 AM, Lord_Scareglow said:"... this was an easy figure to get in the wave because it re-uses so much, this was kinda the rock python of the wave, a pretty easy slap in the pack figure that didn't require tons of money spent on tooling...."
"...and yeah Hydra Stomper as a example of why did that guy get more love? then this? when I still see Hydra Stompers turning pegs to ashes, the demand wasn't there but for some reason the Hasbro Crystal ball predicted a huge seller, while this is actually highly desired by the fans...."
Fair point, and not to seem like I'm contradicting myself from earlier, but I will say whatever complaints people may have regarding either Rock Python or Hydra Stomper, both of these figures were excellently done and detailed almost exactly from their source material.
Rock Python isn't a particularly dynamic figure (or character) but they did get his distinctive helmet and belt correct, outfit colors, etc.
Stomper is all the way on the other side of the spectrum, in regards to the more intricate detailing required for its armor, however it also looks accurate to the tv episode. Which just underlines my frustration with this company- clearly they can do these figures accurately, but they just too often choose not to.
On 10/18/2022 at 1:05 PM, Atlantis said:Right. Here's the thing, they should've been working on re-vamping their whole "civilian" figure line anyways. They pulled out all the stops for Hydra Stomper, which doesn't lend itself to a lot of re-use. But not for this?
The gappage on those arms is really distracting.When they knew they were going to make the suited version of Moon Knight, you'd think they would want it to be on par so it woud reflect the hype for the show.
Yeah this figure should have gotten better treatment being it was fueled by a brand new show that was supposed to be the hype, but in reality this was an easy figure to get in the wave because it re-uses so much, this was kinda the rock python of the wave, a pretty easy slap in the pack figure that didn't require tons of money spent on tooling, and in the end it feels like that, just not put to par, he looks awkward standing in a vanilla pose, and don't get me on the way that vest moves when his arms go anywhere past straight to his side.
and yeah Hydra Stomper as a example of why did that guy get more love? then this? when I still see Hydra Stompers turning pegs to ashes, the demand wasn't there but for some reason the Hasbro Crystal ball predicted a huge seller, while this is actually highly desired by the fans.
they should have given this more love, but this was certainly the "let's find a way to keep costs down" figure here. I hope we get a comic Mr. Knight that is better executed sometime down the road, and I can sell this one.
On 10/18/2022 at 8:43 AM, Lord_Scareglow said:"This is how i felt, this figure should have been the same size, or about the same size it makes no sense, other then they just were lazy, because this figure re-uses so many existing parts....in hand this figure is pretty weak, it's got so much re-use..."
Right. Here's the thing, they should've been working on re-vamping their whole "civilian" figure line anyways. They pulled out all the stops for Hydra Stomper, which doesn't lend itself to a lot of re-use. But not for this?
The gappage on those arms is really distracting.When they knew they were going to make the suited version of Moon Knight, you'd think they would want it to be on par so it woud reflect the hype for the show.
On 10/18/2022 at 6:14 AM, Atlantis said:Wouldve made this figure bigger....needs to look like he could fit the costumed Moon Knight.
This is how i felt, this figure should have been the same size, or about the same size it makes no sense, other then they just were lazy, because this figure re-uses so many existing parts.
anyways I really wanted this figure, as someone who is dedicated to all Moon Knight legends figures, I wanted this to be a stand in for the Comics suit, and it does that fine, but in hand this figure is pretty weak, it's got so much re-use, and it feels like a let down, the vest hinders good movement in the torso and arm department, it's just not that great of a figure IMO.
Wouldve made this figure bigger....needs to look like he could fit the costumed Moon Knight.
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