Captain Marvel Dons A New Costume

On 6/17/2023 at 1:45 PM, Jeddostotle7 said:

I can kinda understand people not fond of the overall aesthetic of the costume, but the opposition to there being a jacket at all is deeply confusing. So many other superheroes, especially those with very physical fighting styles, have worn jackets, and yet this is the first time people say it's impractical?

I don't think it's so much that the jacket is impractical, its more that its impractical for Her. In the '30s-'40s it was common to see men dressed in suits and ties and fedoras, topped off with capes, going into action. Its impractical, but it fit the era. And certain outfits just go with certain characters; when I see this jacket, not only does it give off drum major vibes...it looks like something a teenager would wear. It's not "wrong", it's just looks wrong for Carol. Dept of Defense Security Manager, USAF fighter pilot, galactic superhero....nah, this woman is at least 30. Can't see her wearing this.

On 6/21/2023 at 8:13 PM, AndyL said:

I'd love to think this was a clever way to get Carol back into her older iconic costume but I just don't think todays writers are that clever. It would be a smooth way to pull it off though.

It was a very bad idea.

On 6/21/2023 at 8:50 AM, leokearon said:

It was about 10 years ago. Power Girl got a new costume and every issue it would be completely destroyed until eventually she was back in her iconic look.

I'd love to think this was a clever way to get Carol back into her older iconic costume but I just don't think todays writers are that clever. It would be a smooth way to pull it off though.

On 6/21/2023 at 2:33 PM, AndyL said:

Oh wow. Was that a thing already? With Power Girl I can only imagine what the issue was with her costume being destroyed. Probably something that would be frowned upon in this day. Never been a big DC fan. They do an occasional movie okay. Like both Suicide Squads but overall from the movies to the comics to the action figures they are the inferior of the two companies. DC does have the better traditionally animated movies and televison. For whatever that is worth.

It was about 10 years ago. Power Girl got a new costume and every issue it would be completely destroyed until eventually she was back in her iconic look.

On 6/21/2023 at 3:10 AM, leokearon said:

Oh no, it's New 52 Power Girl all over again

Oh wow. Was that a thing already? With Power Girl I can only imagine what the issue was with her costume being destroyed. Probably something that would be frowned upon in this day. Never been a big DC fan. They do an occasional movie okay. Like both Suicide Squads but overall from the movies to the comics to the action figures they are the inferior of the two companies. DC does have the better traditionally animated movies and televison. For whatever that is worth.

On 6/20/2023 at 2:33 PM, AndyL said:

LOL. Truth be told I guess you, I and pretty much anyone else on this board are about as qualified to speak on what superheroes wear to fight aliens in space as any fashion designer turned comic artist and all we would all have different opinions on the details. But can we at least all come together and agree it is pretty darn UGLY? And honestly as I think @TheArrowpoints out it was easy for Jen Bartel to tap into her talent and design the darn thing but any poor artist who gets tasked with the book is going to have an aneurysm trying to illustrate that crazy thing from panel to page in each issue. And we all know these days a new comic run always comes with some new fantastic powers so I wonder if her new power will be a Cosmic Trombone.

Artist will always change things to suit their own style and keep it simple. That's why very few artist drew Wanda's Wada Tiara correctly.

On 6/20/2023 at 4:12 PM, AndyL said:

True. The artists of today have a lot more tools at their disposal to deal with smaller details and if they get in a pinch the jacket can always removed or destroyed at anytime. Maybe they can make it a running joke that her jacket gets destroyed all the time during a fight. Maybe they can give her some impressive guns underneath. Losing the jacket is a theme all in itself.

Oh no, it's New 52 Power Girl all over again

On 6/20/2023 at 10:00 AM, ADour said:

The design can easily be broken up in simpler shapes. Most details are angled lines, which makes it even easier to reproduce. And even then, not every panel needs to have the same level of detail.

Plus, if you take away the jacket, her costume is even simpler than her current one, which has a lot more seam lines and panelling. The jacket being the way it is even makes it easier to draw, since there's a lot less wrinkles to convey than, say, a bomber jacket.

Jan Bazaldua can easily handle it, plus it's not like she's being tasked to draw an Iron Man armor. Now thosecan get complex.

True. The artists of today have a lot more tools at their disposal to deal with smaller details and if they get in a pinch the jacket can always removed or destroyed at anytime. Maybe they can make it a running joke that her jacket gets destroyed all the time during a fight. Maybe they can give her some impressive guns underneath. Losing the jacket is a theme all in itself.

On 6/20/2023 at 10:33 AM, AndyL said:

Any poor artist who gets tasked with the book is going to have an aneurysm trying to illustrate that crazy thing from panel to page in each issue.

The design can easily be broken up in simpler shapes. Most details are angled lines, which makes it even easier to reproduce. And even then, not every panel needs to have the same level of detail.

Plus, if you take away the jacket, her costume is even simpler than her current one, which has a lot more seam lines and panelling. The jacket being the way it is even makes it easier to draw, since there's a lot less wrinkles to convey than, say, a bomber jacket.

Jan Bazaldua can easily handle it, plus it's not like she's being tasked to draw an Iron Man armor. Now thosecan get complex.

On 6/19/2023 at 5:30 PM, spoooky said:

I think the issue is about whether you approach costumes from a functional or aesthetic starting point. Because you're giving consideration to how it would actually feel to wear and move in whereas I'm just like baaaahn-baaaahn-baaaahn-baaaahn-baaaahn-baaaahn-baaaahn.

LOL. Truth be told I guess you, I and pretty much anyone else on this board are about as qualified to speak on what superheroes wear to fight aliens in space as any fashion designer turned comic artist and all we would all have different opinions on the details. But can we at least all come together and agree it is pretty darn UGLY? And honestly as I think @TheArrowpoints out it was easy for Jen Bartel to tap into her talent and design the darn thing but any poor artist who gets tasked with the book is going to have an aneurysm trying to illustrate that crazy thing from panel to page in each issue. And we all know these days a new comic run always comes with some new fantastic powers so I wonder if her new power will be a Cosmic Trombone.